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I finally saw HP Goblet of Fire. I liked it a lot, really, just like my father who went with me – his only complain was about Quidditch Tournment, he wanted to see guys playing it. Maybe on next move, I guess. Visual effects were amazing and I loved second task (the underwater one) scenes, creatures attacking Harry scared me – and when he found hostages, dudes, for a nanosecond I thought those kids were dead! But in the end I felt that the entire movie wouldn’t be perfectly understood by people who hadn’t tead the book (like me and my father) or don’t have much knowledge of Potterverse. At same time I think there were too much info that weren’t very clear. For example:

- Death Eaters attack – I don’t remember if reasons for it were explained, were them? Or was it just a scene to shock people?
- Veelas – Ron said something about Fleur being a Veela and how he liked the way they walked. Had anybody explained what a Veela is?
- Priori Incantatem (or something like that) – Harry talked about his wand being connected to Voldie’s one and Albus said it was that cham/spell/whatever. What the hell did that mean?
- Voldie’s nose: is there any good explanation for his lack of nose?

Just now I’m starting to read the books but I couldn’t say, just by watching this movie, that Severus, Draco and Lucius were interesting and complex characters. It was kind of annoying to see Draco just as an arrogant teen after reading so many wonderful fics in which he’s a rich, well-developed character – like Severus and Lucius. Maybe it was caused by the need of telling a long story in about three hours – I also felt Fleur, Viktor and Cho weren’t totally "developed", is there more about them in the book? I hope so.

Sirius scene: loved it, loved it, loved it!!! Was anybody else excited just by listening to Gary Oldman’s voice? I hope so, I don’t want to feel lonely in my squeeing, lol

Beauxbatons arrival: it didn’t impress me. Durstramg boys arrival was much better, with all the fire and menacing looks from Viktor and Karkaroff, *g* - btw can anybody explain me how an ex-Death Eater, ex-Azkaban convicted, can be a Headmaster? And was he threatening Snape in that storage room scene?

It reminds me of another thing: who really put Harry’s name in the goblet? We saw Karkaroff going to that room alone and Bart Jr. could have done that too but when Dumbledore said he had put Harry in a great danger... did he realize what was going to happen at tournment? Does that mean he was the one who put Harry’s name in the goblet? And why did it also chose Harry since it’d already choosen a Hogwarts champion?

Ron and his twin brothers are becoming very handsome young men. In fact those kids are growing up so fast my father saind they’ll be too old for next movie, lol

I noticed the story is getting darker and dangerous: movies 1 and 2 had a different vibe, a kind of lighter tone, but since PoA I see a change, as if Harry’s life is getting more and more complicated and threatened by several dangers. Is that what happen in the books?

Ok, that’s enough for such an old subject. Time to read all Potter books and wait for next movie!

(just one more question, I swear: I watched PoA again recently and noticed that when Dementor tried to kiss Sirius and "James" saved him, Harry saw a stag made of light, I suppose. I know it’s James’ animagus form, but how could Harry have known that?)

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maddiec24
Dec. 31st, 2005 03:06 am (UTC)
I completely missed this post! Yay, you saw it! We went to see it a couple of times. Now I'm waiting for the dvd to come out, hopefully with lots of deleted Severus, Lucius and Draco.

- Death Eaters attack – I don’t remember if reasons for it were explained, were them? Or was it just a scene to shock people?

Well, there was a *lot* more to that scene, in the book, as well as at least a couple of characters that were completely left out of the movie. To me it seemed to be a way of saying, "Hey, Voldemort's back!".

- Veelas – Ron said something about Fleur being a Veela and how he liked the way they walked. Had anybody explained what a Veela is?

Not in the movie, but then I didn't really think Fluer was as ethereal as a Veela should be anyway. They're supposed to be unbelievably beautiful, irresistable to men, and she... wasn't. Then again, I'm not a guy, so maybe I'm wrong.

Voldie’s nose: is there any good explanation for his lack of nose?

Not really, I don't think.

Just now I’m starting to read the books but I couldn’t say, just by watching this movie, that Severus, Draco and Lucius were interesting and complex characters. It was kind of annoying to see Draco just as an arrogant teen after reading so many wonderful fics in which he’s a rich, well-developed character – like Severus and Lucius. Maybe it was caused by the need of telling a long story in about three hours – I also felt Fleur, Viktor and Cho weren’t totally "developed", is there more about them in the book? I hope so.

I'm sure any JKR devotee will hate me for this, but there is *so* mcuh fanfic out there that treats Severus, Lucius and Draco better than she does. Severus fares a *little* better than Lucius and Draco in the books and movies, but not much. Lucius comes across as a one dimensional villain, and Draco seems to be there just to annoy Harry.

There's a little more about the others in the book, but not a whole lot.

Sirius scene: loved it, loved it, loved it!!! Was anybody else excited just by listening to Gary Oldman’s voice? I hope so, I don’t want to feel lonely in my squeeing, lol

Well, the guy behind us at the movies was squeeing quite a bit, but me... not so much. First of all, that is *so* not how I imagined firecalling. And Sirius sounded... ill. I guess we're lucky we got any Sirius at all in this, but I was disappointed.

And about Sirius. When PoA came out(and I didn't read any of the books until after I saw PoA), I was excited about it because of Sirius. I already loved Snape and Lucius, but Gary Oldman's a favorite of mine, and I looked forward to it. And I wasn't disappointed. But, OMG, Remus! I fell really hard for him. Then I read Order of the Phoenix, the "Snape's Worst Memory" chapter, and read a bunch of fanfic, and now I... don't like Sirius as much as I used to. And I don't like James at all.

But, anyway.

Beauxbatons arrival: it didn’t impress me.

Yeah, me either.

</i> Durstramg boys arrival was much better, with all the fire and menacing looks from Viktor and Karkaroff, *g*</i>

Yes, and the ship rising was just like I imagined it.

- btw can anybody explain me how an ex-Death Eater, ex-Azkaban convicted, can be a Headmaster?

Huh. No, I can't. Maybe JKR could.


And was he threatening Snape in that storage room scene?

That scene actually took place outside, during the Ball. They were just arguing, Snape telling Karkaroff to leave if he wanted, but he(Snape) was staying at Hogwarts.

It reminds me of another thing: who really put Harry’s name in the goblet?

Barty Jr, as Moody, did.

And why did it also chose Harry since it’d already choosen a Hogwarts champion?

More of Barty Jr's work.

I noticed the story is getting darker and dangerous: movies 1 and 2 had a different vibe, a kind of lighter tone, but since PoA I see a change, as if Harry’s life is getting more and more complicated and threatened by several dangers. Is that what happen in the books?

Yes, the books get progressively darker, and I'm sure the movies will too.
adrianabr
Jan. 1st, 2006 04:11 am (UTC)
I knew you would answer me, lol - and many of your answers were exactly what I was thinking, specially the one about fanfics treating characters better than J.K.R. (I'm sure her hardcore fans would hang us but that's sooo true, and I'd just read few HP fics, lol).
Anyway you just made me more curious about the book, I'll have to read it soon. And yes, Durmstrang ship arrival was something to remember!!
maddiec24
Jan. 1st, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
You'll see just how much they left out when you read the book. They left out one thing I was really looking forward to - - Snape showing his dark mark to Fudge at the end. And did you notice after Harry found out Snape had been a Death Eater(in Dumbledore's pensieve), there was no reaction from him? Come on, you know the first thing he would do is go tell Ron and Hermione.
adrianabr
Jan. 2nd, 2006 03:53 am (UTC)
I hadn't noticed it then, but I guess Harry was a little shocked after the experience (using the pensieve for the first time) and also to discover about Bart Jr. - although I think it's quite weird since he had just met Bart Sr., he shouldn't have been so disturbed by learning about that trial. Anyway it looks like the entire scene will be better appreciated when I read it, *g*
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