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Thanks to swear_jar I discovered fandom_lawyers, an interesting comm in which legal issues concerning to fandoms are discussed. I think some people from my flist would like to take a look at this particular post.

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fluffyllama
Mar. 20th, 2006 01:27 pm (UTC)
God, has she not shut up about that yet? That particular poster has been told a million times what the position is, and even reported a member of my flist to LJ abuse because a discussion on chan was taking place in her LJ. She's little better than a troll.
visionofblue
Mar. 20th, 2006 01:52 pm (UTC)
Heh. You know, that's the first thing I noticed about the post. (I have no idea who the person is.) It almost looked, to me, like the poster was secretly interested in starting a chan debate or expressing her disapproval.

I don't get out much, is chan used to refer just to older person/under-aged person, or does it cover fic with sexual activity between two under-aged people? And what ages are considered chan? Er...neither of you have to actually answer that if you can't be bothered, I was just wondering. *g*
fluffyllama
Mar. 20th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
I think we all get a nose for trolls and their close relations after a while, and she's certainly in the family. I've seen her do that one in a number of places, and she never lets on she's had the debates already.

Like most fandom words chan has a variety of uses. I've seen it used for all combinations of age pairings that include anyone under 18 (though ages of consent vary so that's excessive to me in the UK, for example). For me personally, I consider chan to be where the age is part of the kink - description of younger body/characteristics/behaviour/interaction and would label anything other than that as simply containing someone underage, but again you have the age of consent issue! Gah, fandom ;-)
visionofblue
Mar. 22nd, 2006 11:53 am (UTC)
Like most fandom words chan has a variety of uses.

*g* I forgot about that. It always depends on the fandom.

For me personally, I consider chan to be where the age is part of the kink - description of younger body/characteristics/behaviour/interaction and would label anything other than that as simply containing someone underage

That makes the most sense to me.
adrianabr
Mar. 20th, 2006 05:30 pm (UTC)
I think fluffyllama had answered your question - it was mine too for a long time, I didn't understand what chan meant. I've read somewhere, probably at a fanthropology post, that that's related to a Japanese term to young girls and children in general, but right now I'm not sure. And yes, I think it generally means sex involving adults and children/pre-adolescents.
adrianabr
Mar. 20th, 2006 05:38 pm (UTC)
visionofblue
Mar. 22nd, 2006 11:55 am (UTC)
Thanks for the link and answers! I forgot that like all other fandom terms, it probably shifts from time to fandom. ;)
adrianabr
Mar. 20th, 2006 05:18 pm (UTC)
So are these old news? Ok, I'd noticed post's date but I'm talking about the discussion. That's what happen when I decided to read old posts, *g* - but I didn't know this poster was well-known for past actions, thanks for informing me!
fluffyllama
Mar. 20th, 2006 05:23 pm (UTC)
Only her opinions :D I hadn't seen that post before, or not that I can remember, I just know she's tried it in a few places. I hadn't realised it was an old post, but the big wankfest she started was way before that so she obviously didn't learn much from that.
adrianabr
Mar. 20th, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)
I can picture it, *g*
adrianabr
Mar. 21st, 2006 01:08 am (UTC)
Now I'd find the Japanese reference:

-chan: added to the names of people who a) are younger/inferior in status to you, and/or b) you like, are on close personal terms with, or think are cute. ^-^ It's generally considered offensive (in Japan, but not necessarily amongst otaku) if you don't know the person well. It's sometimes also added to the names of female and/or younger forms of anim頣haracters to distinguish them from their original forms (e.g. Ranma-chan - female Ranma, Washu-chan - Washu's 12-year-old form), but this is usually a fan usage. Pets and animal mascots (Ryo-chan, Kero-chan, P-chan) also get it. Names are often shortened when you use -chan, e.g. "Shin-chan" (Shinji). Fangirls tend to suffix their online names with -chan, presumably because they want to be thought of as cute, and not because they want to be thought of as inferior. ^-^;;; People you could refer to with -chan are: your kid, your puppy, your best friend (usually girls only, unless you're *really* young), your boyfriend/girlfriend/intended, someone you want to be condescending to/cut down to size.

(http://childofmana.tripod.com/glossary.htm#japsuffix)
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